Jeffrey Besecker is joined by Ben Oofana to delve into the complexities of relational ambiguity, separation, and unresolved grief. They discuss how these emotional states can trigger older attachment patterns, leading clients into a cycle of connection-restoring emotional rumination that often feels like repair but can actually reactivate past wounds. The conversation focuses on how clinicians can navigate care when grief, shame, longing, or relational threats dominate the emotional landscape.